Finley to the Cards?

[the teacher]

There's no need to calculate anything or justify who pays what. The two teams in the deal decide what cash changes hands.

[*TR]

And the Cardinals don't pay much!

From the Akron-Beacon Journal;
Posted on Sat, Jul. 20, 2002

Indians deal Finley to Cardinals
ALAN ROBINSON
AP Sports Writer

PITTSBURGH - The St. Louis Cardinals, desperate for another starter since Darryl Kile's death, acquired left-hander Chuck Finley from the Cleveland Indians on Friday night for minor league outfielder Luis Garcia and a player to be named.

The deal was completed before the NL Central-leading Cardinals lost to Pittsburgh 12-9, but was held up pending the approval of major league baseball.

Any trade involving the transfer of $1 million or more must be approved by the commissioner's office. Finley is making $5 million this year and is still owed $7 million from his original $11 million signing bonus.

"We'll pick up a portion of his salary, not half," Indians general manager Mark Shapiro said. "We have to pick up his signing bonus."
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Finley's salary is only 5 million for this year. The year is only half over, so he is owed less than 2.5 mil for 2002. Shapiro says we are paying less than half his remaining salary but the deal was held up for MLB approval because the Tribe is paying at least 1 mil of the 2002 salary. Well, we have to be paying almost half his remaining salary then.
And we pay all of Finley's defered bonus money, 7 million. Shapiro seems to go indicate we had to pay this money. That is not true, these payments could legally have been transfered to St. Louis, but obviously we chose not too for the deal to take place.

So this deal financially only costs St. Louis at the most about 1.4 million. And it is probably less. We didn't dump any salary at all hardly!

The PTBNL better be a very good one!

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[Alex]

Sounds fishy to me. Just keep Finley if we have to eat that salary anyway. Perhaps this is more, "Look what Hart did"! type of a ploy.

"My hands were tied because of what John Hart has wrought" is what it sounds like to me.

[The Genius]

Blogspot dug this outon Luis Garcia:

"Mark Shapiro noted that Aeros manager Brad Komminsk, who has seen Garcia play a lot this season, says that Garcia has an "electric
bat" and the Indians project him as an everyday corner outfielder with the potential to hit .260-.270 with 30 homeruns. That's not a bad
player, huh? Scouts generally say his bat speed is solid, raw power is his plus-tool, he's athletic enough to be solid defensively, and he's going to have learn the strike zone better to be an impact hitter at the major league level. "

[The RotoTribe]

I think this is spin. Given the fact that this guy was rated number 8 in the Cards system, and given the fact that they don't have much, I don't expect much. How many guys go from being a pitcher to a good hitter? I know it's gone the other way, Bob Lemon was a third baseman and became a great pitcher. But the other way around? I don't know.

If this was not a salary dump, and I don't think it is (if you consider a million bucks or so small change), then why didn't they deal with the Reds?

[The Genius]

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[the teacher]

I agree.. the ptbnl better be good. Thus far this is a disappointing deal, especially after reading the rumors about what cinci was prepared to offer.

[Hawaii007]

Personally I think that Garcia represents one type of player we haven't traded for yet, one of those pure power bats. Never know, he might actually turn out to be a Sexson clone.

[Alex]

Who were the Reds offering?

[The RotoTribe]

Ok, Genius. I humbly stand corrected.